What do you think of this

[Deans BMW]

What do you guys think of this????? :linzi:

http://www.bmbikes.co.uk/photos/schemephotos/R1200S%20Titansilver-magmared.jpg

[GPM]

Ya know, I don't remember the last time I saw a barber pole. Just another disappearing piece of Americana.

[Gord]

I like it!

[Deans BMW]

The bike has less than 4,000 miles, is showroom perfect, heated grips, wide 6" rear wheel, Ohlins and a full Remus. There is a deposite on My ST and it is supposed to be picked up Saturday at San Jose BMW, and the price is very right for the S.

[Boxerboy]

I love the look of it. The paint is "in yer face" and I'm left ambiguous about it. The bike itself is very attractive otherwise. It'd be a blast to ride I expect.

Then I looked at the seat, and the handlebars, and how they related. Then I got an ache in my neck. Actually, that's been there a few weeks now.

For me, that'd make a great second bike, to be used like a Ducati. Sunny days only, enjoying the local hills and cafes. Hmm, that's not something I normally do, so I think this would need to be more'n that.

How does the riding position compare to a R100RS? Longer stretch?

[Deans BMW]

I remember riding one back to back with my R1200ST in the Santa Cruz mountains. Found it to be comfortable, a little more agressive than my ST, very comfortable at 80 and above.

Box, the bike will be used in similar type of riding as you described, trips to the Bearwallow and general hooning up here in the mountain sweepers.

[Pacific]

Add "Incorrigible Hoon" to Curmudgeon and Old Fart.

Jay

[vintagemxr]

Looks like a candy cane with wheels, Dean, so I added a custom exhaust for you. Get out your Santa suit and you're in business.


http://www.corgifan.com/forum/candycaneR1200S.jpg


:wave:

the other Doug

[X-Troller]

I rode one for 1500 miles in Europe a few years ago and it's riding position was not all that much different than my ST. The seat a little less padded though. The engine with it's 500 more rpm to redline was a dream. Much more versatile in the twisties I couldn't believe the difference though you might be spoiled now Dean that you have the cammer GS. I'm sure it's not an HP2Sport (my personal Nirvana Boxer) but it is great.

[Sir Limpsalot]

The red and white paint scheme was popular here, about a $500 option if I remember. I always thought the black was nicer though, boring old bastard that I am. I think you'll love it Dean, you can get together with Will and..

Just don't post videos on You Tube, you'll get arested.

Si.

[Donson]

It makes My neck and back both hurt to look at it. At speed, the weight should be off the wrists, looks like it would be fun Springervill/Alpine Express Ride. Any chance on some Dyno numbers with Dougs Performance Pipe? I would think sugar content would make it a little buzzy.

[Arby]

I like the concept, but doubt I could ride it much. And, I'm with Si on the color.

RB

[socalrob]

I'd like to own an S someday. Kind of hoping BMW will bring a "cheap" S out with the camhead.

With as many bikes as Dean has it would be nice to have some different colors than black, IMO.

[SV Andy]

Not sure my wrists would like it but i love it that colour will do nicely thankyou.

[Deans BMW]

Well, I have to make my decision today or tomorrow,

Agonizing big time.....

with our economy seemingly ever spiriling down the crapper and all the pols aparently want to do is to raise taxes and spend more money kind of scared to spend the $.....I think I can get for $8K however........

Decisions, decisions.

Another point, found out yesterday that the bike has only.....2170 miles never raced and only ridden on several trips...

[Bill]

Dean, by all means - get the bike - if a new R1200GS, F650GS, and an old C cruser cant make you happy - GO FOR IT BIG TIME!

[JCsman]

Ho Lee Katz! Eight thousand for that bike with that mileage?

If I had the :
- Back
- Wrists
- Skills to ride it right.... sigh.

But I do know a guy, lives out near Show Low....

[vintagemxr]

Or if you hurry, something with a better paint scheme:

Ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1976-BMW-R90S-Silver-Smoke-/250679898334?pt=US_motorcycles)

the other Doug

[Sir Limpsalot]

Crikey! $8,000 for a 2,000 miler? Buy it, you know you want to anyway, an' if it doesn't work out ship it over here and we'll sell it for a profit.

Si.

One last thought. Your garage is starting to look a little BMW "heavy", you should add a '68 BSA Lightning at some point. You wouldn't want people thinking you're, like, obsessed..

[Arby]

One last thought. Your garage is starting to look a little BMW "heavy", you should add a '68 BSA Lightning at some point. You wouldn't want people thinking you're, like, obsessed..

Sorry Si, it's too late! :):)

RB

[Gord]

When I was trading my R1150R for the K1200S, I did consider the R1200S. I love the boxer, and the S is truly distinctive. I found the riding position to be that much more aggressive than the K1200S, and I didn't think the R1200S would give me the long distance enjoyment of the K1200S. After almost 3 years of riding the K1200S, I think I made the right choice. I still find my self pining for the R1200S from time to time though (not to mention the fjords, as well! *grin*).

[Deans BMW]

Well, its starting to look like this might happen after all. Will know for sure by noon tomorrow (Wed). If it will happen, will start out in the afternoon heading to Carson City Nevada in the Tundra.

[socalrob]

Dean, does the S have ABS?

[Capt. Blackadder]

I still find my self pining for the R1200S from time to time though (not to mention the fjords, as well! *grin*).

Me too! :003:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npjOSLCR2hE

[Deans BMW]

Dean, does the S have ABS?

'Rob, yes it does have switchable ABS.

Brand new battery, heated grips, Ohlin Shocks and wide 6" rear wheel. Also only 2182 miles, always garaged and only ridden on several trips.

[socalrob]

In that case, when you don't want it any longer call me up. Unless I'm more broke than usual you have a buyer.

[Lisa_ST]

are we going to go get it this weekend then?

[Deans BMW]

are we going to go get it this weekend then?

Lisa, if it all works out.

[Bill]

Don't let ii get away from you - bring it home! Ms Pam's Bike - she likes red doesn't she -
Remember Sarena and her black R1200S out at Big Bend.

http://sweetwilliam.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Scott-and-Serena/IMG0010/169537196_UXNLX-L.jpg

[Deans BMW]

Bill, yes I remember them well.

How are they doing?

[Bill]

I don't see them often - she left the museum - don't know if she is working or not -
I saw Scott about 2 months back - on one of our Sunday rides, he looked like he was enjoying life.

[DarthRider]

I don't see them often - she left the museum - don't know if she is working or not -
I saw Scott about 2 months back - on one of our Sunday rides, he looked like he was enjoying life.

Last I heard they were both involved in the new motorcycle museum in...McAllen?
I was trying to help them find vintage American & Euro bikes for the collection. I found a number of bikes for them but never heard back, even after several follow-up emails.
I figured something must have changed...

[Deans BMW]

Another whirlwind adventure. I am sitting in a little cafe in San Jose waiting to have breakfast with Tom the sales mgr at SJBMW.

Left home a little after noon Thursday for the 850 mile drive to Carson city, Nevada to check out the R1200S and to see if it was as stated. Arrived about 9 in the morn after spending the nite in Tonopah, Nv. The bike was every bit as I was told, show room perfect with 2182 miles. A quick blast confirmed that all was perfect and was plenty comfortable. We loaded it in the Tundra and talked until past noon.

Helli Kornton the previously owner is a long time BMW person that has worked with the US importer in all things pertaining to the GS series a master rider. He simply road the S into the back of the Tundra up a narrow ramp like it was nothing.

http://deansbmw.smugmug.com/Other/BMW-R1200S/07-R1200S-017/977118755_Q8WRq-L.jpg

Loaded and all ready to go.

http://deansbmw.smugmug.com/Other/BMW-R1200S/07-R1200S-018/977121143_8dsdU-L.jpg

Left Nevada a little after noon to head to San Jose BMW taking I 80 over Donner Summet.

Arrived at SJBMW in time for them to unload the bike. The day before I had made arrangements for them to go thru the bike from stem to stern, change all fluids including brake fluid, any and all recalls and a new set of PR2's. This afternoon the 900 miles back to Show Low and tomorrow ride the beast to the Bear Wallow.

Times a wasting, lots more adventures to be tasted.

[Donson]

Remember, 55 and stay alive, no Hooning!

[X-Troller]

I was wondering where Heli went to hope he is doing well a great rider and a nice guy to have a REAL beer with! Your gonna love that bike.

[JCsman]

Dean, be careful scrubbing in those new PR2s. Knowing you, that'll be in the first five miles of twisties you encounter.

The bike is a beauty.

[Donson]

Now I know where BMW stole that paint job-those big Coast Guard Sikorsky Helicopters!

[kocook]

Enjoyed the chat, Dean! Now that we all have R1200S' to ride, need to get WW & me out to the barn for serious runs at the Devil's Hiway! Love that road.

[Deans BMW]

Kent, that would be a real treat.

[jamming]

That's a beautiful motorcycle Dean. Be careful on the Road to Bagdad...not a lot of handlebar on that ride. Does it have a steering damper?

[Deans BMW]

Roger, just looked, and yes it does.

[jamming]

Roger, just looked, and yes it does.

Sweet! You'll be glad it does riding up to the house. Scott stopped how many times thinking he had a flat tire on the Busa.

[Sir Limpsalot]

A lovely bike Dean. I can see it replacing the ST in a way that I could never see the GS doing. Bloody good!

Si.

[Deans BMW]

Simon, It replaces the ST....kind of. The ST was the best sport tourer that I have ever ridden with a emphasis on sport touring, the R12S seems to have a strong emphasis on the sport riding side. I road my ST several times over 900 miles in one day, I do not think the S will be so comfortable....but up here in the mountains....the perfect steed.

Got home at noon today (Sunday) after a whirlwind 2200 mile trip, totally exhausted but with an ear to ear grin, that bike is simply beautiful especially to a BMW Nut such as my self.

Unloaded it and tucked it safely in the MC B&B connected a Battery Tender Jr to the battery pigtail installed at San Jose.

Mz Pam raved about it when she first saw it in the back of the Tundra, thats a first for her as all motorcycles look the same in her eyes.

The pics have a lots more bytes???what ever they are as Will needs more resolution if he puts some of them in his Mag.

What can I say.....The lovely and ever so understanding Mz Pam.

http://deansbmw.smugmug.com/Other/BMW-R1200S/Picture-SJBMW-Pick-up-R1200S/978901529_5zG4U-L.jpg

Now it has only 2190 miles.

http://deansbmw.smugmug.com/Other/BMW-R1200S/Picture-SJBMW-Pick-up-R1200S/978913207_5zFGs-L.jpg

Happily tucked away amongst its new friends.

http://deansbmw.smugmug.com/Other/BMW-R1200S/Picture-SJBMW-Pick-up-R1200S/978907095_LNX52-L.jpg

At San Jose, they went thru the bike with a fine tooth comb as if it had never had a 600 mile service plus a complete annual plus new tires, it runs like a fine Rolex now.

[Donson]

She looks happy there, amongst Her new Friends. Safe riding , Deano!

[Deans BMW]

After it was unloaded, road it a little bit just to the house so there would be room to turn it around, noticed two things right off the bat,

The turning radius is significantly larger than any BMW that I have ever ridden.

Will definitely require strict concentration and care to ride up and down the driveway from Hell, a big difference from the GS.

A big plus is that it is lighter than the GS.

[Blackdog]

Congrats Dean. Whats next?

[Sir Limpsalot]

Congrats Dean. Whats next?

I heard he's thinking of getting a beemer of some sort. Dunno though, seems a little unlikely to me..

Si.:)

[socalrob]

:pot:A Ducati Multistrada 1200 would most likely be Dean's best all around bet. Good for the driveway, 150hp for the canyons, and a great sport tourer to boot. Maybe BMW will come out with such a type bike.

[blatant]

Wow Dean, that is so cool! Great unique paint scheme. As for that pic of the mcbb...I can't figure out if it looks like a museum, the back side of the shop where every one always wants to hang out, sit around and drink beers or the beginning of the coolest show room I've ever seen. I'd take all of them immediately. The sun through the windows in those pics are awesome. Love the anniversary red on the gs seat as well. You may have to pave an 8in "shoulder" up your drive if you keep it up.

[Nail24]

Dean, I sure wish my wife was that understanding. I can't get her to understand that there are different bikes required for different "missions" and road conditions. Need at least one to tickle my speed rib and one the tour on asphalt/gravel roads (Alaska). Do you offer a crash course in spouse persuasion? What a wonderful fleet.

[FryDaddy]

:eusa_clap: Congrats on your new 'S'. A beautiful bike. I am a young 48 and you are showing all us young'uns how to retire! Happy for you.

Terry

[X-Troller]

Dean I agree completely with you on the S vs the ST but just think what an ST could have been with the S or the HP2 Sport engine. he ST fit me like no other bike I had ridden before or since.

[Nail24]

Dean I agree completely with you on the S vs the ST but just think what an ST could have been with the S or the HP2 Sport engine. he ST fit me like no other bike I had ridden before or since.

If the ST had the cruise control the RT does, I'd be mounted on one today. I never understood why BMW limits that feature to two of its bikes. The S engine in a RT/ST would be welcomed grunt.

[Deans BMW]

Dean I agree completely with you on the S vs the ST but just think what an ST could have been with the S or the HP2 Sport engine. he ST fit me like no other bike I had ridden before or since.


I couldn't agree more. The ST in retrospect was the best all around bike that I have ever had. I don't think I would of ever sold it if it had cruise control and did not have the servo brakes. With a full Remus it dynoed 101 RWHP on a freshly calibrated dyno about one month ago.

[Elsie Smith]

Yikes, that sure is a lovely candy-striper you've gotten. But definitely
needs the striped exhaust for the Holidays!!

[Bill]

Dean knows how to choose them - Elsie, I notice your York, PA address - when did you leave DC? How is ZUMZUM treating you - Dean also has a ZUMZUM!
I changed bikes and now have a 2008 Versys - Red - nice bike. Not a lot going on in Mexico - Pancho says he will still be leading tours there.

http://thekneeslider.com/images/versys.jpg

[Donson]

Hi Elsie, where You been?

[Gord]

Dropped into Bentonville BMW today. The Canadian dollar is pretty strong these days and I jokingly said to Chrissy that I was going to buy another bike today. Man, I wish I had the balls to follow through. I salivated over this R1200C. I would change out the brown trim for black, and the paint needs some work, but at 14K miles and $6K, I was smitten:

http://prisoner.smugmug.com/Other/My-Smug-Mug/R1200C-2004/981713075_8sxcy-M.jpg

But after seeing Dean's beautiful R1200S, I thought a nice yellow bike to go with the yellow trim on my K12S might be the route to go. This 2001 R1100S caught my eye for only $5,750 asking price.

http://prisoner.smugmug.com/Other/My-Smug-Mug/R1100S-2001/981713174_9k3Fx-O.jpg

But then I thought, I loved my 1964 Mini. Perhaps I should think about a 1964 BMW R27 for only $7,500.

http://prisoner.smugmug.com/Other/My-Smug-Mug/R27-1964/981713153_tWpww-M.jpg

I am going to be working on Chrissy for the next few days to see if I can get a bike to ride home!!!

[Donson]

Gord, You NEED the R-27. Buy it. Dont worry about the Wife. I will write You a note. :028:

[Sir Limpsalot]

With my "hooligan hat" on, you'll never have more fun (per $) than on an 1100S. With my "vintage enthusiast" one on, you'd never regret the R27. Better than money in the bank that one. Zero depreciation and you can ride, polish, and just plain admire your investment every day. Try that with investment bonds!

Si.

edit, Of course the primary reason for buying any motorcycle should be simple lust, one bought simply "to make money" is unlikely to prove very satisfying. Untill the day comes when you realise your asset anyway. Having said that, how much did you sell you Mini for? And how much would you need to pay today to get another one?

[Deans BMW]

[QUOTE=Sir Limpsalot;110393]

Of course the primary reason for buying any motorcycle should be simple lust, one bought simply "to make money" is unlikely to prove very satisfying[QUOTE]

Clearly an absolute truth of the Universe, Sir Simon wise way beyond your years. :eusa_clap:

[socalrob]

Dean,

When we going to get a performance review?

[Deans BMW]

I road it again today for about 50 miles, no sore wrists this time. Hopefully this weekend a ride to the Bearwallow in Alpine. The bike does not have a license plate or registration yet...........:linzi:

My new camhead R1200GS seems torque-ier below 6,000 R's but the R12S pulls very well above 6-6.5 K and readily hits the rev limiter. Very comfortable at 80 and above, I like the pull as it passes thru 7K R's, a little rough on the hands and wrists going slow on my driveway.

[socalrob]

If sore wrists remains a problem you can get some risers to modify the riding position. I remember Scott actually had handlebars on his S.

Hope the ergos are not a enjoyment killer. I remember the retro Ducati Sport 1000 cafe bike from a few years ago. The press loved the looks but said the thing was a torture rack.

[Nail24]

Dean, get a tank pad to lean your stomach on and that will take the weight off your wrists.:) I don't need the pad because my "tool shed" is dual purpose.:linzi:

[Bill]

Dean - on my 2000 R1100RS - it had a lean forward riding position- I learned to support my weight with my back mussels - took the weight off my wrist. I also used a throttle rock-which allowed the application of throttle with the palm of my hand. I did many 500 mile days on it and loved the bike - traded the bike for a 2005 F650GS, got bit in the ass by thumper talk.
I remember Scott actually had handlebars on his S. yes he had risers and a different handlebar - really looked like a bastard child!

http://throttlerocker.com/media/models/original.jpg

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b6ce06b3127ccecf229362d7eb00000010O08AaNHLhy2bOQ e3nwo/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/

[Deans BMW]

Guys, I don't think that the riding position is going to be much of a problem as my R1200ST had a similar riding position although not as extreme. I'll know for sure this weekend as I plan on a 300 plus mile ride this weekend to Alpine (Arizona) 191 (The Devils Hwy) Hannigans medow and thereabouts...:)

After riding yesterday with no wrist or hand soreness, this weekend will be the final test.

Truth be known, the bike is so good looking and so much fun to ride.....a little discomfort is but the most minor annoyance to be completely ignored.

[Sir Limpsalot]

Bill, I had a friend with an 1100RS once and I can't see one with out thinking of him (he died of cancer, poor chap). He had a lady friend in France and would think nothing of finishing work on a Friday, riding to Dover, getting the ferry boat to Calais and blasting off to see her for the weekend. I always thought the RS was everything good about BMW.

Si.

[1MPH]

Guys, Truth be known, the bike is so good looking and so much fun to ride.....a little discomfort is but the most minor annoyance to be completely ignored.



Dean, I love your attitude. Enjoy the ride.

[panthercity]

Bill, I had a friend with an 1100RS once and I can't see one with out thinking of him (he died of cancer, poor chap). He had a lady friend in France and would think nothing of finishing work on a Friday, riding to Dover, getting the ferry boat to Calais and blasting off to see her for the weekend. I always thought the RS was everything good about BMW.

Si.

Which is why I still have mine lo these 17 years and 107k miles.

[socalrob]

Truth be known, the bike is so good looking and so much fun to ride.....a little discomfort is but the most minor annoyance to be completely ignored.
That's what I was hoping to hear.

[Deans BMW]

Rob, it will be a mighty cold day in Hell for a motorcycle to be too uncomfortable to enjoy.

Finally this morning got a clear Arizona title to the bike and a license plate, took a little doing as the bike was officially "sold" in Atlanta as a "Demo" for BMWNA then passed to a fellow that did and does a lot of work for BMWNA who lives in Nevada and California as partial payment for service rendered. Luckily did not have to pay any sales tax, at first they were going to charge tax on the origional list price of just under $17K :icon_redface::thumbs_down:.........but .....was.....able to work it out :028: :eusa_clap: :)

Life is good....if you don't weaken

[Donson]

Dean, can You do My taxes next year?

[DarthRider]

Dean-O I'm just catching up...I really like your new bike!
Truth is, this is the only bike BMW makes (do they still make them?) that I would be interested in. It seems they got it all right with this one. Well OK...maybe the R1200R too.
Will it power-lift in 3rd? I bet it will.
Now aren't you glad you bought this instead of that silly R1 imitation?
Man, I have really fond memories of that wild-ass day ride in the White Mountains with Kent on his R1200S, you on your ST and me on my Speedy.
The stuff waking up wide-eyed, smiling & hands-sweating dreams are made of!:ricky:
Say, what's with all the red seats on BMWs these days? You have to be gay now to be a designer for BMW or what?:ymca:

PS - Love the cleavage shots...keep 'em coming!

[Deans BMW]

Thanks Dave, I agree on the S1000RR, I seriously doubt that would be a good Idea in my undiciplined hands....in fact I know it would be a very bad idea.....a giant grease spot in the making.

Dave that day of you Kent and myself along with that day in the Texas Hill country with you on your Speedy and me on my ST was another one of those days that easily pop to mind.

[DarthRider]

Dave that day of you Kent and myself along with that day in the Texas Hill country with you on your Speedy and me on my ST was another one of those days that easily pop to mind.

And nobody died, nobody went to jail, nobody got divorced...for some strange reason!:)

PS - I got a report on the Speedy the other day...I sold it to the son of a Peckerhead bud in Fort Worth and it has been reported to be flying low at silly speeds in the twisties & straights around North Texas and the new pilot is deliriously happy. And still at large & happily married!
Who could want for more?:eusa_clap:

[Deans BMW]

Had a great ride to the Bearwallow this morning, road about 200 miles in all. I got about 41 MPG with the way I was riding, a mix of sane and complete WFO.

http://deansbmw.smugmug.com/Other/BMW-R1200S/pictures-8-28-10-R1200S-MCBB/987166172_xMVhQ-L.jpg

http://deansbmw.smugmug.com/Other/BMW-R1200S/pictures-8-28-10-R1200S-MCBB/987168675_95CxC-L.jpg

The bike is absolutely on rails, There is a sweeper that I calibrate the cornering and road holding ability and stability of all my bikes. The CLC wobbles above 95, the R1150R, about 105-110, the ST and the 2010 R12GS is comfortable at 115-120, this R1200S with Ohlins was rock solid at 125 and asking for more. The only bike that would hint at a wobble is the CLC. I could easily touch down what ever would scrape first going even faster yet. The rev limiter cuts in at 130 in 4th at about 8500-8600 on the tach. That makes 3rd 4th and 5th perfect for these roads up here. The engine seems to be perfectly linear from just over 6K revs to the rev limiter. My guess is that the power feels about like Daves Speed Tripple. I was able to hit the rev limiter fairly easy in 6th, the speedo only has markings up to 160 and it looked like it was indicating between 163 and 165. The R1200S was as stable as a rock. In a hard cornering sweeper the steering is perfectly neutral taking no steering input to hold what ever line chosen even at an indicated 130-135. BTW, all of this at above 7,500 ft elevation.

For those of us that love the Boxer twin, the R1200S is damn near as good as it gets, I can only imagine what a HP2S is like in stock form and then get to play with San Jose's 145+ RWHP racing HP2S, one would need Wills wordsmithing ability to properly paint the picture.

At the Bear Wallow.

http://deansbmw.smugmug.com/Other/BMW-R1200S/pictures-8-28-10-R1200S-MCBB/987170859_w2CYJ-L.jpg

http://deansbmw.smugmug.com/Other/BMW-R1200S/pictures-8-28-10-R1200S-MCBB/987172126_eEs7K-L.jpg

Damn, that thing is beautiful, all that out of an aircooled pushrod twin with driveshaft, unbeliveable.

http://deansbmw.smugmug.com/Other/BMW-R1200S/pictures-8-28-10-R1200S-MCBB/987173451_w2SbK-L.jpg

Another point that I forgot to add is that I am not the least bit sore or anything from the ride and could of easily gone a lot further. I think that I am getting used to the riding position.

Did I say that I love the bike.

[JCsman]

Not much pressure on the wrists at 163, I'd imagine.

:omg:

I like the paint job, Dean. But you've lost that element of surprise when the squids would say, "Just some old fart on a boxer". Boxer or no, that thing has the look of speed about it.

Hard to imagine a better fit than you, that bike and the part of the world you call home.

Congratulations...:eusa_clap::eusa_clap::eusa_clap ::eusa_clap::eusa_clap:

Oh yeah, looks like the tires got scrubbed in well!

[Deans BMW]

Bill, the ride home is where the real scrubbing took place.:):eusa_clap:

[Griffon]

Dean, I really like the new ride! Shame the ST had to be sold into slavery to make it happen though...

[kocook]

Dean, I really like my R1200S. Have the geometry finally tweaked to give it feather-light steering, but with stability when no inputs are made. I put the new Michelin Power Pure tires front and back for a Texas Hill Country run. Really like them. I can tell the difference in the weight--especially on the front. They stick quite well on all sorts of street surfaces and in the wet. Don't know how well they will do in the cold/wet; but my previous experience with Michelin has been good on that score. Will eventually switch out the rear for a Pilot Road 2 since I commute daily on mine. Thinking it will provide great combo of mileage and traction where it counts. But will wait until after running the Pure for a while to gauge the mileage.

Note : Had wanted to try the Pure on the track to see if they had better traction characteristics than the Pilot Power, but rear has already had to be plugged. Not a fan of the previous Michelin street or DOT race tires on the track. They have a tendency to provide excellent grip up to a point, then slip significantly for a bit of a scare. However, if eased down to max lean (read valve covers scraping) in a sweeper, they hold fine. Never had a problem with Pilot Powers or the Pilot Road 2 on the street though. Would not put the old Pilot Road on a donkey cart, but the PR2 is a good tire.