Free Triumph scan and tune software.

[isiahstites]

I found this on another website.

Figured I should post it here too so Triumph owners can see it. It's called TuneECU. Works fine, you just need to purchase the correct cable from FleaBay. But, it is FREE, no need to pay for tune or licenses.
Works on some other European rides too.
http://cid-ced9b0857c70aaec.skydrive...Public/TuneECU

[GPM]

This software is a very similar to TuneBoy which costs around $400. Wayne Tripp of Power Tripp Performance is already dyno tuning bikes using this software. It gives full control of the fuel and ignition tables as well as all sensor readings, ability to change speed limiters, rev limiters, and adjust for gear/tire changes. Very powerful software, but, one really needs to know what they are doing, especially when it comes to the ignition tables.

[jamming]

. It gives full control of the fuel and ignition tables as well as all sensor readings, ability to change speed limiters, rev limiters, and adjust for gear/tire changes. Very powerful software, but, one really needs to know what they are doing, especially when it comes to the ignition tables.


I've got the cable on order, and have been filling up pages of paper with math. I think my HP graphing calculator is going to explode. I've had to drag out a bunch of books that have not seen the light of day in years.

I've written the MAP. I've raised my Rev limiter by 600 RPM, richened it up a bit under 3000 RPM and over 3000 really threw the fuel at it and bumped my timing 2 degrees, I'm thinking it will be a hair too rich, but that's OK for now. Currently I'm running the TOR tune with a stock pipe.

I've got a used Triumph TOR pipe coming as well, but with the TOR pipe AND the TOR tune it will still be too lean. My intent is load my MAP and save the tune now in the ECU. If it runs good with my MAP I'm going to use the exhaust gas analyzer at work to adjust the fueling parameters.

Now all I need is the cable, all is saved on my laptop.

[Donson]

sigh.....whatever happened to "turn the mixture screw all the way in, until it seats, lightly. Then back it out 1.5 turns." Oh, wait.....I have a Harley, that still works!:)

[panthercity]

Still works on my Triumph, too...

[GPM]

Rog, I think you're going to really like the results. AZSBK has a dyno and an analyzer. Using the exhaust gas analyzer during my dyno run showed it tracking right at 13:1

If you still have your O2 sensor connected the bike will run in closed loop most of the time. That will make the ECU use the O2 sensor readings and lean things out regardless of the parameters in the fuel tables. Its not a big deal and will actually get you a bit better mileage. If you want complete control of the fueling you can do what I did and eliminate the O2 sensor. That requires an inexpensive plug from Dynojet that stops the ECU from setting a code and turning on the check engine light. You also need to remove the O2 sensor, plug the hole, and then uncheck the O2 sensor fitted box on the Tune software. You'll get a bit better throttle response that way as the transition from open to closed loop is gone. But, you'll very likely use more fuel. I went from high 30's to low 30's with my last round of changes, but it pulls like a freight train. There ain't no free lunch.

Have fun.

[jamming]

sigh.....whatever happened to "turn the mixture screw all the way in, until it seats, lightly. Then back it out 1.5 turns." Oh, wait.....I have a Harley, that still works!:)

Won't work on the new ones Bubba ;)

I agree, recip airplanes still use carbs and I'm well versed in those.

I know how to do this stuff, I went to school for it so I got out my books and went to work. I did theoretical ignition curves at differing RPM's. I used the known size and flow of the TB's and cylinder to figure fuel with some BMEP figures as well. Lets see how it works.

[jamming]

Harry, I plan on keeping the O2 sensor. Writing my own MAP allows me to "trick" the ECU. What I did was to change the parameters the ECU sees, in effect turning the sensor into a wide range sensor. I won't know it works until I plug it in.

The other thing I did was to reprogram what info the MAP sensor sends. I basically told the ECU that it is 72 degrees F and 1190 MB ALL the time, in effect riching up the mixture ALL the time regardless of the ambient temp, thus the reason the O2 sensor will remain. If I don't she'll be really rich on the hot days we have all the time. My mileage is gonna suffer some...well maybe a lot...but it'll be a 5 min deal to change the MAP. Besides that...it'll be fun.

[GPM]

Interesting. I'm not sure how TuneECU works as I use Tuneboy. It appears that TuneECU is very close to a copy of Tuneboy and is still being developed by a fellow named Tom in Hamburg. If you're interested, Wayne Tripp at Power Tripp Performance is becoming quite familiar with both pieces of software and is pretty active on a couple of R3 boards. I'm currently running one of his dyno developed tunes. I can get you contact info for Wayne and Tom if you need them.

[Boxerboy]

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[GPM]

Try this one.

http://www.tomhamburg.net/

[jamming]

Harry, I'd be interested in the contact info. I'd like to talk to some folks that have used it AND dyno the bike in it's current form and then dyno with my changes. The math works out, lets see if it works out in real time. I've been all over the TuneECU tunes for the Tiger and have broken them down. I'm not doing anything odd, but rather just some extra fuel in ranges that I spend a lot of time in commuting everyday. I've been working on it for a while, just finally ordered the cable.

[Boxerboy]

Try this one.

http://www.tomhamburg.net/

Thanks. That worked. There's LOT'S of big disclaimer comments aren't there!

[GPM]

Rog, Register at r3owners.net. Then look up Tom-Hamburg and Power-Tripp. You can PM them and get any info you may need. I'm a Moderator there, but I don't think they'd appreciate me handing out their email addresses.

Sounds like what you're doing will work fine. Dyno runs typically are done at full throttle so you probably wouldn't see your commuting ranges. You'll have to specifically ask them to target the ranges you want. The issue will be whether or not you can force the ECU into open loop during cruise situations. I have a Scanguage mounted. One of the things it can show is open/closed loop conditions. When you're done we could hook it up on your bike to easily verify the open/closed loop condition.

[GPM]

Thanks. That worked. There's LOT'S of big disclaimer comments aren't there!

Yep. Its pretty powerful software. In inexperienced hands it could easily make your bike boom. The most common approach is to copy a dyno developed tune from someone who has done the same mods to their bike as you have on yours. Those won't be ideal as each bike is different as are conditions, but it will be close enough.

[jamming]

Got the cable, software is loaded up..thanks John! and we've looked at the ECU. I'm reading up on the software and having fun looking at the sensors in real time. I figured out how to sync the TB's and read and clear codes.

Once I'm comfortable with the software package I'll load up the tune.