Grab a Cup O and read, Great Adventure

[Deans BMW]

Found this link, what a great adventure, border to border along the Contential Divide. What an ultimate adventure. One of my many dreams. :028:

Sit back and read.

http://www.bigdogadventures.com/CD.htm


http://www.bigdogadventures.com/images/CD%20Ride/dividemap.jpg

[socalrob]

That looks like an outstanding ride. Let us know when you start. Hard to believe that much of the lower 48 is still so untouched.

[jamming]

AWESOME TRIP!!!!!
I am so jealous, I want to do it. That looks like it would be the trip of a lifetime.
Dean, Dave. If I get a KLR can I go with you? Please!!!!
Roger

[Deans BMW]

Roger Doger, you bet. This trip would create several life times of memories and experiences.

[DarthRider]

I looked at a couple of well-worn KLR's today that had done a very similar trip.
We gotta go Dean-O...you too Rog!
Dave

[jamming]

Dean, Dave, I'm ready, lets saddle em up! Makes me want to hunt me up a KLR, damn! just what I need another motorcycle:104:
Roger

[Deans BMW]

Guys, keep a daily look in the classified sections of both of these sites,

http://www.advrider.com/

http://www.klr650.net/forum/

Found mine on the Adv rider site.

[Road Dog]

Hey Deano,

Been there, done that. If you have any questions, I am happy to help and I encourage you to do it. It is a fantastic ride. With the exception of a couple of streaches it can be done with almost any bike wearing knobbies. 80% of the ride could be done on street tires in dry conditions. The hardest parts of the ride, the ones the books tell you to bypass, are the most fun.

BTW - I have some friends leaving on KLRs after memorial day to ride Wyoming and Utah if you are interested.

Bill

[Deans BMW]

Road Dog, will take you up on your offer, you have done that trip.....beyond cool.

[Road Dog]

Deano, here is a link to my pictures and a story I wrote for our club.

http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=8AYuWrJq0bNmF4



I made it home Tuesday evening. It was two weeks of splendid riding with great riders.

Spud and I started on Wednesday meeting in Jacksboro, TX and heading for Rapid City, SD. We made a quick stop by Weatherford to bum lunch from John and Lynda. From there we continued to Hayes, KS, for our halfway stop over. There was great numbness at this point. Spud's sheepskin hits the trashcan and mine becomes a welcome mat for my tent. The next day numbness is reduced and pain is increasing, this is good so to speak.

The next day we blast through Kansas and turn NW in Nebraska. Lots of grass and corn. The scenery starts to pick up when we near the badlands in SD. Spud makes an early gas stop. This is unusual, we should be able to make Jeff's on our remaining gas. I should have known we were up for something. 25 miles of deep marble gravel crossing the Rosebud Indian Reservation approaching Rapid City. This was no fun, I was asking myself what have I gotten into with 10 days of this stuff. An hour later we were at Jeff's with steaks on the grill. With new tires waiting we get to work changing tires and oil. While servicing my bike, I find two cells dry on my battery

On Friday Jeff modified my center stand and side stand so I could use them on this trip. Tires changed and new chain and sprockets installed, we were ready to hit the road. Saturday morning we head for Wyoming with the first stop at Devils Tower. By three o'clock this day temperatures were hitting 105. My bike is overheating. We get bad gas at Little Big Horn, now Spud's, Martin's and my bike are overheating. We can barely maintain 55 on the freeway. Spud's battery gives it up. We push him to start and ride until dark to stay in Big Timber, MT.

Sunday we press on stopping in Helena to get a battery for Spud at Wally World. For lunch we stop in Ovando, MT and meet a couple of riders on their way to Fairbanks, AK. This guy pulls into a parking spot blinding us inside of the cafe. He had a 1200 Kawasaki with two 100 watt HID lamps on the front of his bike. He rode everywhere with both on high beam. He didn't care that people were flashing their lights at him. He knew cars were seeing him. What a pain. I hope the gravel takes his headlights out.

At 7:30 pm we pull into a campground in Roosville, MT. Mike is there waiting for us. We set up tents and walk across the hwy for dinner. Jeff Saline starts recording our tire tread depths. We each put $10 into a pool. The rider with the lowest tire wear wins the pot but has to buy dinner for the rest of us. No contest here, I always burn up tires.

On Monday morning we are off. The five of us, Mike Frederick, Jeff Saline, Steve Rankin, Martin Earl and myself ride the 2 miles to the Canadian border, take pictures at the border signs and have coffee and pizza for breakfast at a casino/roadhouse. In Montana almost every gas station, convenience store and restaurant is a casino, so to speak. We start heading south and hit the forest roads in Eureka, MT. Our first rest stop is at a logging operation that has the trail blocked. Mike Frederick has been riding off road for a week so he is more comfortable and much faster than we are. That afternoon the rain starts, the roads turn muddy and the wind picks up. Tree tops are breaking and dead limbs are falling on us. Jeff asks a forest ranger directions to find the quickest route to the highway and gas. We travel 30 miles out of our way to find the power off at the gas station. Several trees were down over the highway and were already cut up and removed. Everyone up here must carry a chainsaw. I screwed up on the directions and took everyone to a Super8 while Mike is getting cabins for us. I felt bad about this but we were all tired.

While we were setting up our tents on the in front of the Super8 Ronnie Weinzapfel and friends spotted us and stopped by. They were trying to find their support vehicle with the nightly provisions. Ronnie was on his R100GS, there were two KTM950's and a couple of KLR's. We only saw their tracks for a couple of days.

The second day we spent a lot of time and miles looking for breakfast. We finally found a cafe that just opened at Swan Lake. A half mile down the road we picked up the trail and headed south. Most of it was flat, moist gravel where we could make good time. We stopped again in Ovando at 10:30 AM to gas up and found out that Ronnie had been through there an 7:30. We pressed on towards Lincoln going through steeper climbs and several creek crossings. Near the top of the mountain the map said turn right and the GPS said go to the top of the mountain and turn right. We went to the top and didn't get lost but had to take some rough roads to get back to the trail. No big deal but a fun ride. We made it into Helena that evening and had a late dinner with one of Steve's high school buddies.

The third day presented the best riding of the trip in my opinion. Lava mountain was a very steep, muddy, rocky, wet, root bound climb up a mountain side. Everyone fell, dropped or walked their bikes at some point up or down this mountain except me. I just didn't know any better. Martin fell and was penned to a tree by his bike. Mike fell when he hit a large rock and his water bottle flew into the air coming down on his kill switch. Crash! Spud just fell in the mud when he couldn't touch the ground. I took pictures of the guys going up and down the hill. I told Mike I sure wish I had a picture of me coming down the hill, he told me to ride back up there and he would get a picture coming down, that is what I did much to Steve's amazement. It took us four hours to cover 12 miles - what a blast. This hill killed the preload adjuster on my shock.

The next day we were really looking forward to a steep decent down Fleecier Mountain. At least I was. When we got to the top of the mountain and the trail was closed to motor vehicles. So we had a serious back track. The rest of the day was fairly uneventful, just a lot of miles through BLM ranch lands getting out of Montana. We camped at Lakeview, MT this night with the mosquitoes..

Heading toward Idaho we picked up a short piece of one track. I nearly went down on this one. Going through a mud hole I slipped and bounced off a rock that sent me through the middle of the mud hole and out the other side. When I stopped I was standing there with a tree between my forks. I couldn't move without dropping my bike in the mud hole. Steve came to my aid. Once into Idaho we followed a railroad bed for about 25 miles. This was pebble sized loose lava rock turned into whoops by the four wheelers. At several spots they had cattle guards designed to keep jeep and other vehicles out. They were constructed out of angle iron about 18 inches tall with a 60 degree ramp on each side. If you hit it just right you would jump right over it. If you hit it too slow you would plop down on it and rest there like you put your bike on a milk crate. I did this and smashed my oil drain plug. I check the plug everyday after this to make sure it was tight but I couldn't put a wrench on it. We continued on just south and west of Yellow Stone and ended the day in Pinnacle Valley, Wy. The last road of the day had a sign on it saying it was impassable when wet. It was raining so up we go. I was in the back of the group for this one. When I rounded a corner there was Spud with his bike lying in the mud. When I stopped laughing I took a picture and helped him pick it up. We spend an odd night in the valley owned by Jerry Jardine. Sound familiar - Jardine Headers - 70's & 80's maker of mc exhaust pipes. He rode up on a KLX 650 and spent an hour talking about his past and present enterprises and all the different rides. He owned the valley, the resort at the top of the valley, in town a hotel and restaurant. He is still bending pipe for diesel pickups.

The next morning we headed for Union Pass. We stopped to take a picture on top of this 8600+ ft pass and heard bikes approaching. Ronnie and friends pulled up amazed that we had passed them. We followed their tracks to Pinedale, Wy where we all had lunch and discussed staying in Atlantic City for the evening. Atlantic City was 85 miles east on mostly gravel roads following the exact continental divide. A storm was on our butt when we reached Atlantic City at 3:30 where Ronnie was standing on a corner to tell us to get a room. The high roads leading to Rawlings (138 miles away) were treacherous when wet and it was raining and going to get bad. We couldn't find a place to stay so we hunted up some gas and raced the storm out of town. Martin reached the end of his trip at this point and turned north and headed for SD. There was over 90 miles of wet gravel, mud and deep sand to the next paved road. We did most of this run between 35 and 65 MPH. I crested a hill and checked the GPS for the next turn. It told me I was on it, when I looked up there was a Y that I was splitting. No biggie, lock em up and split the Y and continue on. The only structure on this stretch was a shepherds trailer, absolutely nothing else for 110 miles. We saw rabbits, cattle, elk and antelope on this stretch. I paced an antelope running at 45 MPH. When we stopped to rest we could still see it running over the hill. When we finally hit the pavement it was a two lane highway that was never used. It had been years since the lines have been painted on it. I called it the Highway to Hell or the Highway to Nowhere - Actually it was X Mineral Highway. We were so happy to get off the dirt for a while we rode flat out four abreast covering the whole highway for many miles. It was a blast. We covered 310 miles that day, most of it on dirt.

We took it easy in Rawlings the next morning and split for Steamboat Springs about noon. It was a fairly easy ride with a couple steep rocky climbs that I have come to enjoy. A nice way for me to finish. In Steamboat Springs a couple of other riders joined us for dinner. One was riding a V-strom 650 on the ride, the other an F650. The Vstrom had no rock protection other than exhaust pipes. This proved you could ride almost anything on this ride. He did knock an oil line off of it on Lava Mountain. Spud won the tire contest and bought dinner that night. I lost, go figure, rear brake leading into most corners and full throttle digging out of most corners, my front sprocket was toast after 1,400 miles with a new chain and a Scottoiler. I put on my road sprockets and said my goodbye's.

When I left Steamboat Springs it was 35 degrees. I put on my electric jacket and gloves for the first time and made 600 miles to Amarillo. The last 235 miles were the hardest, I was beat and napping on every other picnic table until Jacksboro. It was a great ride. Having never ridden in the dirt before I learned a lot. I learned to trust my knobbies. I had a great ride with some great riders. I hope they are enjoying the trail to Mexico. I sure wish I was there. The only things I didn't use on this ride was a pooper scoop and the spare tubes. When I got home there was a spot of oil under my bike. The smashed oil drain plug was loose now. What a great bike. No drops, no crashes, no walks.

A PS to the story: near the end of my photos you see a picture of a smashed KLR. Mike was surprised by a cell phone talking pickup driver in CO. He bailed before the truck ran over his bike. The truck ran over the front wheel and engine, all on Mike's side of the double line. No one was hurt and the totaled bike was repaired for about $600 for forks, frame, bars,& all the other bent pieces.

Bill

[DJ Down Under]

Thanks Bill...great report and fantastic pics...it musta been great.

What's that cylinder/tube under the engine at the front.

Here's a nice shot of you and your bike...:023:

DJ

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~djp1/mypic2219.jpg

[Road Dog]

The tube - that is where I kept my bike cover. Some people keep maps or tools in it. Several people said I would loose it or smash it to pieces. It never took a shot.

Bill

[DarthRider]

Mr. Dog -

Next time *you* take a picture of *Laura*. You are ugly.

You guys are effin' killing me with all this DS talk and me with 9 mos. to retirement and no KLR yet anyway!

Dave

[Deans BMW]

9 months, hell we will all be too old :058:

Just for grins.

http://www.advrider.com/Photos/hpimages/image_148.jpg

[Acacia]

Road Dog,

That was a neat account! I could almost smell the countryside!

A KLR has been in my furture sights for several months now. This kind of story will hasten its arrival!

You mentioned at one point having the the bike overheat? Why, slow riding and the electric fan not capable?

What is the electric capacity for the alternator? Enought for heated jackets etc? Someone wore out sprockets in 1400 miles. Wet/mud and not enough lube? Loaded - the brakes up to it at highway speeds? Seats - aftermarket needed?

[Deans BMW]

My KLR that I picked up a few weeks ago came with a Corbin and the stocl seat as well. I have removed the Corbin and installed the stocker, better but not the greatest.

From all my studying, a lot of KLR owners get a different left hand grip with a switch that actually turns the head lite off, just like the good old days, with a small altenator, allows geated clothing at low RPM conditions, also some owners add a thermostat bypass switch so as to run the cooling fan continously in adverse conditions.

Brakes not great, but OK in non playing Go Fast conditions. Some of the KLR guys add a braided stainless line in place of the stocker and run diff pads, also a larger dia rotor is available.

The aftermarket support for the KLR's is very large as the bike has been made for something like 20 years and is considered the most bike for the buck in the industry.

[Road Dog]

Road Dog,

You mentioned at one point having the the bike overheat? Why, slow riding and the electric fan not capable?

What is the electric capacity for the alternator? Enought for heated jackets etc? Someone wore out sprockets in 1400 miles. Wet/mud and not enough lube? Loaded - the brakes up to it at highway speeds? Seats - aftermarket needed?

Overheating - 240 lb rider, 125 lbs gear, 107 degree day, trying to run at 70+ MPH - Do the math. This was the only day it had a problem and 3 out of 4 of us had the problem. Mine just started earlier, the other guys were a bit smaller than I. The bikes just lost power and would only run about 50 - 55 MPH. They didn't boil over. I tried running with the choke on, slowing down in the heat of the day was the only thing that helped.

The brakes are fine, I did add a ss brake hose on the front to get rid of the mushyness.

I haven't had any charging problems. I did wear a gerbings jacket liner and heated gloves. No problem.

The sprocket was an el cheapo model from Sprocket Specialist - you get what you pay for.

And I love Dunlop 606 tires. They hold the pavement well but are great when off road. Mike had several flats on the rear. The tires are so strong he rode for 50 miles with it flat. The only way he knew he had a flat was when a car passed him and told him his rear tire was smoking. The tube melted, the tire finished the ride with no problem.

[Road Dog]

From Deano
"My KLR that I picked up a few weeks ago came with a Corbin and the stocl seat as well. I have removed the Corbin and installed the stocker, better but not the greatest."

Having two seats you might want to use some thumb screws to hold your seat on. We drilled a hole in the side pannels over the seat bolts. Then we welded a washer on the top of a longer bolt to make a thumbscrew with a couple of nuts locked togather about 1/3 way up the bolt. Now we can remove the seat without taking off the side pannels.

"From all my studying, a lot of KLR owners get a different left hand grip with a switch that actually turns the head lite off, just like the good old days, with a small altenator, allows geated clothing at low RPM conditions, also some owners add a thermostat bypass switch so as to run the cooling fan continously in adverse conditions."
Heated clothing is not a problem at highway speeds.

Here is a link for nice priced switch gear. I have one on my bike and my wife doesn't. The stock batteries are marginal and will boil dry in a 1000 miles of hot riding. So check the water often. A hawker oddyesy battery is going in soon. I endorse the headlight cutout switch for those cold mornings when your battery may not be fully charged.
http://www.bevelheaven.com/stuff-for-sale-switches.htm

Jeff has the thermostat bypass switch. I have never found a condition to need it. Maybe summer riding in Big Bend. We usually turn it on to run his battery down.

One mod Jeff did add was to add a home made LED charge indicator. It uses two 12v LEDs and a zener diode. At normal charging voltage both lamps are lit, below 11.5 V one lamp turns off. I might have parts and instructions if you are interested.

"Brakes not great, but OK in non playing Go Fast conditions. Some of the KLR guys add a braided stainless line in place of the stocker and run diff pads, also a larger dia rotor is available."

My brake was mushey, I put the SS hose on with good resluts. The wifes KLR didn't need it. After riding airheads with ATE brakes for years I don't have any complaints about the brakes.

One other mod that is a must is the carb vent line. Put a vacuum T fitting in the line and run a separate vent hose under your seat. This is for deep water crossings.

"The aftermarket support for the KLR's is very large as the bike has been made for something like 20 years and is considered the most bike for the buck in the industry."

It is not the most powerful DS but it is probably the most comfortable and has the best range. When off road at slower speeds, gas mileage went from 45 mpg to almost 70 mpg for me. Because it is inexpensive - you don't mind abusing it.

Bill

[Deans BMW]

Bill, thanks, I was going to ask you what you recomended.

[Acacia]

Thank you.

I guess that the temp gauges are idiot types with no real indication of actual temp?

Are there any published watt outputs for the alternator?

More comments please;
About the 'doohicky' mod?
The fork brace?
And, some have fitted another closer to the wheel front mud guard?
A list of must have parts for the kind of trip you did?

[Deans BMW]

Brian, read the klr.net site and the http://www.advrider.com/ site, thumper section.

Temp read out is a guage

[Road Dog]

Thank you.

I guess that the temp gauges are idiot types with no real indication of actual temp?

Are there any published watt outputs for the alternator?

More comments please;
About the 'doohicky' mod?
The fork brace?
And, some have fitted another closer to the wheel front mud guard?
A list of must have parts for the kind of trip you did?

Check this out - http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html#electricalsystem

Some riders temp guage was in the hot, mine was at about 2/3 scale. I was just whipping that donkey hard.

Doohickey - your chance of failure is probably less than 5%. The $40 or $50 bucks is cheap peace of mind. I can change that spring in 20 minutes.

Fork brace - We don't have any, one friend does - I also have friends with Olin susp & gold valves, progressive springs etc. What ever you like. If you are going to spend that kind of $, get a KTM.

OK - Here is what I would do with a new bike in order:
Engine bash plate - If you will really use it, it's more fun jumping downed trees rather than cutting them with a pocket saw to get by.
Bark busters - save your fingers, they also save your bars in a drop
Renthal Suzuki ATV bars and bar backs - I'm picky about seating pos, bad neck, bad back. Stock bars aren't that bad though.
Cruser pegs/enging guard - I don't use the pegs but they are a great engine guard. I attach the PVC tube to this with wire ties.
Headlight switch - push to cancel turn signal
Doohickey upgrade - peace of mind
Luggage sys - I used givi soft bags ($75) but would have gone for Pelican Cases on a new installation. (BTW Mikes hard case Givi's exploded when the truck ran over his bike. Givi replaced all the broken hardware under warranty - that is a good company.)
My bike came with mirror vib isolators
My seat has gel pad insert - worse than stock.
Carb vent mod - My bike also came with waterproof fuses and sidestand bypass. I am indifferent on these. I guess if you really plan on gong swimming they are a good idea - we have gone swimming on a slick Texas water crossing.
Suzuki DR 650 foot pegs - cheaper and thinner than IMS
NoToil air filter - easy to clean on the road
45 t rear sprocket & 14 & 16 on front- prevailing torque counter shaft nut for changing srpockets on the side of highway. Gearing up is the way to go offroad.
Center stand upgraded with foot lever - great for fixing a tire but you could always lay the bike on its side. My gas cap leaks.
My bike came with a tall windshield. I like a bike with no windshield. The stock windshield is the perfect size for sending bees up your helmet.
I have radiator guards but haven't really needed them.
Check the oil screen when you change antifreese or after a few thousand miles. Some assemblers use entirely too much silicone case goo. It breaks off and wraps around the screen. It shouldn't impeed oil flow but one less thing to worry about.
Disassemble the rear suspension and lube everything well (pack with grease to keep water out), the bike only comes with a tiny amount of grease on the swingarm bearings and shafts (takes about 20 minutes - NBD). The swing arm pin will corrode and be impossible to get out years down the road. Same for steering head bearings.

On a trip like the GDR don't leave anything to chance. Because of this we had no problems on the trip. We all started with new chanis, sprockets and tires (aggressive knobbies) and all maintenance performed. We had extra cables, levers, tubes, etc. Because we had them we never needed them. We changed oil on the road twice (outside wally world) and used off the shelf valvoline. Another group started three weeks later with dual sport tires and time on their chain and sprockets. They spent 5 days waiting on parts in nowhere Montana. It killed their trip. You will have to work harder in the slick stuff with DS tires.

I put lowering links on both our bikes for street and lite offroad riding. I jack mine back up for the fun stuff.

That is all that comes to mind right now. Send questions.

[Deans BMW]

Road Dog, here is a pic of the latest Pelican case set up, copied from Adv Rider.


AdventurePipe
Roger from AME


Joined: May 2004
Location: Adventure Rider & Aftermarket Systems Manufacturer
Posts: 275 KLR 650 Design is complete

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Hey KLR 650 fans, I got the design done and it is in production now, about 30 days to availability. Here are some pics of the prototype, a few small details will be further refined, the turn signals and helmet lock are not shown but will be in the production run of course...
http://ame.smugmug.com/photos/61077601-M.jpg
http://ame.smugmug.com/photos/61077597-M.jpg


There will be two rail bracket options in one kit: The "street" option is for basic street riding and, ahem, "good looks," where a crash is not likely although it will take a tip-over...
http://ame.smugmug.com/photos/61082135-M.jpg


The second option (5 minutes to bolt-on) is for full adventure touring and dirt riding where low speed crashes are inevitible, this option offers support for the front lower corner of the case, very, very strong...
http://ame.smugmug.com/photos/61082138-M.jpg

As with all Caribou rail bracket designs, this is 3/4" 16 ga steel tubing, TIG welded and powder coated. The cases are modified Pelican 1550s offering about 35 liters of capacity each with integrated locks, lid lanyards, and internal retention straps. Only 34" wide at widest point of cases. I like the way this design came together, very strong, adaptable to one's style, and no-nonsense. This complete system is $685 + shipping. Available in mid April.

$685 for the full "adventure touring" ("full crash") set-up. The option to use just the "street" set-up is up to you. One kit, one price.
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Roger from Adventure Motorcycle Equipment: AdventurePipe/SuperTrapp Exhaust Systems, Caribou Motorcycle Luggage Systems & Accessories for BMW, KTM, Kawasaki & Suzuki Dual Sport Motorcycles

www.adventure-motorcycle.com
www.cariboucases.com
www.adventurepipe.com

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[Road Dog]

For those of you wondering what a doohickey is??? It is a pressed steel balancer chain adjuster that has a spring attached. Both the adjuster and the spring have been known to break, often but not always with catastrophic results. A normal maintenance procedure is to loosen the bold holding the adjuster and allow the spring to take up the chain slack. It is at this point that a broken piece makes itself known and all hell breaks loose. Supposedly Kawa improved this part in 98 but there are still some that break or more often the spring has streched, broken or loose to begin with.

The cardinal rule is to never adjust the tensioner on a trip. The aftermarket kit includes a robust machined tensioner with a couple of different springs to choose from. Kawa denies all knowledge of this. This is cheap peace of mind.
The replacement procedure requires you to remove the left engine side cover, alternator rotor, flywheel and some starter gears. An S bent 1 1/4" wrench and a flywheel puller are required. Tech sessions are often held to do this. I did my wifes in 20 minutes, a little practice and an air rachets go a long way.

[Deans BMW]

Road Dog, what part of the world do you live in, I don't think that my KLR has had the "Doo" mod done yet.

[supermotoC]

Dear Curmudgeon - here's the operation, pictures too!!

http://tinyurl.com/pxuq3


you could do this. No, really.

[Road Dog]

Road Dog, what part of the world do you live in, I don't think that my KLR has had the "Doo" mod done yet.

I am a bit down the highway from Darth - NW of Fort Worth.

[Road Dog]

Dear Curmudgeon - here's the operation, pictures too!!

http://tinyurl.com/pxuq3


you could do this. No, really.

You only need two special tools. A 1 1/4" wrench bent to slide into the rotor space and a 22mm x 1.5 flywheel puller. Take the tank off, lay the bike on the side and go for it. You don't even have to change the gasket.

[DarthRider]

Dean-O
Road Dog is one of our Friday night Peckerhead regulars. I don't know if you met him & his wife Laura (you would remember her...the good looking half of the set).
Bill & Laura live in a small town named Paradise, TX...a slight exaggeration but far enough from the Fort Worth/Dallas Metro-mess to get away with it!
They have a new shop (50' X 50'?) and it's full O' bikes!
Great people.

Dave

[Deans BMW]

Bro Darth, sounds like good people. With my wonderful memory....not...don't remember if I ment them or not.

Thanks Collyer.