One of you texas boys needs to set this fella straight

[Optimus Prime]

Check out this Jerk (http://www.lakecities.com/main.asp?SectionID=27&SubSectionID=87&ArticleID=1157&TM=4895.928)
I wanted to send him an e-mail to tell him what I thought of his attitude, but I couldn't find a link.

However, I do agree with this guy (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2473548&postcount=2)

This is the impact to the hobby from all the squids out there. There are so many of them that there becomes a widely held, yet prejudiced view of all motorcyclists. We are all considered loud because of the many Harley riders (and metric cruiser wannabe's) with straight pipes and we are all speed-crazed death-junkies because of the squids on "crotch-rockets".

As BMW riders, we are far more likely to be too fast than too loud, but I expect that some in our membership do ride in a way that causes this reaction as well. Most beemer riders, even the fast ones, ride with good courtesy and roadcraft. We are being painted with the broad brush because the number (and percentage) of motorcycling idiots is quite large.

The logical next step is legal action against us. The AMA fights this constantly. I'd rather the cops bust the squids and stick dB meters up the pipes of loud bikes, but it is more likely that we will see limits on horsepower or restrictions against the modification of engines and exhaust systems. When the greedy insurance companies begin to see us as a vunerable element of the motoring public, they will begin to financially punish riders with anything over a Vespa 90.

Instead of calling this guy a stupid prejudiced jerk (which he probably is), it would be more beneficial to the hobby if you vented your steam against the squids and the "loud pipes" crowd. They are causing this reaction.

Lee Dickinson
Danielsville, GA USA

[Dallara]

Optimus (Jason)...

YOu can reply that phallic-headed moron cheesedick Douglas Simpson, Managing Editor of that outhouse paper Lake Cities Sun, by going right here:

http://www.lakecities.com/main.asp?SectionID=27&SubSectionID=88&ArticleID=1032&TM=34565.14


And scrolling to the bottom of the page. I already replied to him after clicking on your link and reading his asinine and sadistic, malevolent, frustrated pile of steaming excrement. I doubt they'll print what I wrote him... Not because it was profane in any way, but because it most definitely was rather insulting and questioning of the cretin's intelligence and mental stability.

For those of you who perhaps can't get through on the link, here's what the idiot printed, as the editor, in his "newspaper" (and I use that term loosely):






Douglas Simpson
Managing Editor


To quote Seinfeld’s Frank Costanza at Festivus dinner, now is the time for the airing of grievances.

Usually there’s one hot topic to prompt me to write a column, as my fingers angrily dance across the keyboard. But there are a few things that are, well, bugging me that I need to address.

Here they are, in no particular order:

1. Motorcycles. Why are these things street legal? I challenge anyone out there to remember a time they saw a motorcycle that was driving the speed limit and adhering to all traffic laws.

When I see them, they are usually going about 120 mph down I-35E, weaving in and out of lanes like those white lines are just there for show.

Nothing irks me more than sitting in dense 5 p.m. or Friday traffic, only to see a motorcycle driving between the rows of cars, going about 40 mph. I want so badly to open my car door just before they reach me.

I’ll never forget the time I was driving down the George Bush around 10 p.m., when all of a sudden scorching down the road were not only about five motorcycles driving erratically, but they were all riding on their back tires. Popping a wheelie while doing 80 mph down a public roadway: stupid.

I remember a few years back, I think after Gary Busey had his bad motorcycle wreck, there was a public service announcement asking motorists to “keep an eye open for motorcyclists,” like they are being abused by us car and truck drivers.

I remember telling the TV, “I’ll look out for them as soon as they start obeying traffic laws.” I’m still waiting, so in my eyes, they are fair game.

Our police officers do a good job, I just hope they pay a little extra attention to the wheelie-popping idiots that are making the roadways dangerous for all of us.



Everyone here on this board needs to write this silly prick.

Of Course, that's just my two cents... YMMV.

Cheers, and Thanks Jason!

Allan (Dallara - NACD)

[Optimus Prime]

Thanks Allan,

I've replied with this:

I find your editorial concerning motorcycles deeply disturbing. This kind of over-the-top prejudice is only going to add fuel to the fire, and will not in any way better the situation that has led to your grievances. As a motorcycle rider I pride myself on driving courtesy and basic roadcraft. I will admit to riding above the speed limit, but rarely anything faster than I would travel in my truck, and never with a reckless disregard for my fellow motorists. My concerns are two-fold.

First, I will be the first to admit that there are rude and dangerous motorcyclists on the road. Harley riders with straight pipes who feel compelled to go Wide Open Throttle from every stop light, polluting the air with their noise and reveling in their obnoxious exhaust. Juvenile squids with more motorcycle than sense, and likely experience, riding on one wheel through traffic, cutting in and out of lanes with little respect for others on the road. These motorcyclists, share one common trait: No regard for others. And I have a feeling that trait wouldn’t be erased if they were on four wheels.

Second, is your inability to grasp the actual problem and instead focusing your anger on a poorly formed prejudice. Do the motorcycles themselves ride on one wheel? Do they weave in and out of traffic of their own accord? Are the motorcycles, as inanimate objects, actually the source of your grievance? I would think not. It is the specific riders and their actions you are frustrated with, not motorcycles themselves. Your arguments closely resemble the lunatic arguments for gun control. As if the gun loads itself and pulls its own trigger. Just silly.

Here are my suggestions: Steeper penalties for reckless driving. Car or motorcycle. If you’re into the triple digits on a public road in traffic, you should have your vehicle taken, license suspended, and be thrown in jail for at least 2 years. Strict exhaust noise restrictions should be in place, and actually enforced. In addition, and most importantly, a novice rider should not be allowed to purchase and ride the high-powered motorcycles available today. I would suggest the motorcycle license procedure used in the United Kingdom, where one must start on a low powered motorcycle and take riding courses before even attempting the test to be licensed for a high powered machine. Look it up, it’s a well thought out system.

In conclusion, I appreciate your frustrations regarding the actions of some motorcycle riders. I do not appreciate your poorly reasoned reaction to your frustrations.

Best Regards,
Jason Breede

[Dallara]

Great Job, Jason...

Except for one part.

If one were actually to get sentenced 2 years for every time they were riding at triple digit speeds... Well, let's see...

I would be in prison for 106,421 years if my calculations are correct, give or take about 1,000 years...

While I agree with almost everything you say, I think speed limits should be set on highways according to the license of the rider (or driver) - i.e. the more years of experience without an accident or citation the faster one should be allowed to go. Even the federal government finally woke up to the fact that highway speed limits that were low did nothing to reduce accident or fatality rates. In fact, when the federally mandated 55 MPH speed limit was raised to 70 MPH the accident and highway fatality rate DROPPED!

Just as you allude to in your letter above about other things, speed doesn't kill, operators do. I can honestly say that I KNOW I am less of a traffic hazard or threat cruising along at 105 MPH on my R1150R on an interstate highway than many a geriatric motorhome herder weaving back and forth across lanes in his 50 foot rolling mansion at 10 MPH UNDER the speed limit with no regard to those around him.

That's the key... Driving or riding with CONCENTRATION and AWARENESS, along with the proper courtesy on the road... Moving right for faster traffic, signalling your intentions, not tailgating, etc. Speed is not the issue as proven each and every day on Germany's Autobahn and Italy's hi-speed highways (whose name I cannot recall at the moment).

Remember that the US Highway Interstate system was DESIGNED for 70 MPH speeds back when cars (and motorcycles) did not have nearly as good a brakes, handling, tires, etc. as we have today OVER 50 YEARS LATER! Picking speed as a culprit is just as bad as saying that guns kill people instead of people kill people.

When you start talking about Draconian speed limits laws you best be careful what you wish for, for then certainly you may have it.

And whose to say that only speeds over a 100 should get 2 years imprisonment? What does doing over 90 MPH get you - 1 year? Over 80 MPH - 6 months? Over 70 - 90 days?

And what does 150 MPH get you? Life?

Cheers!

Allan (Dallara - NACD)

[Deans BMW]

And what does 150 MPH get you? Life?


A big smile.

[Optimus Prime]

Great Job, Jason...

Except for one part.

If one were actually to get sentenced 2 years for every time they were riding at triple digit speeds... Well, let's see...

I would be in prison for 106,421 years if my calculations are correct, give or take about 1,000 years...

While I agree with almost everything you say, I think speed limits should be set on highways according to the license of the rider (or driver) - i.e. the more years of experience without an accident or citation the faster one should be allowed to go. Even the federal government finally woke up to the fact that highway speed limits that were low did nothing to reduce accident or fatality rates. In fact, when the federally mandated 55 MPH speed limit was raised to 70 MPH the accident and highway fatality rate DROPPED!

Just as you allude to in your letter above about other things, speed doesn't kill, operators do. I can honestly say that I KNOW I am less of a traffic hazard or threat cruising along at 105 MPH on my R1150R on an interstate highway than many a geriatric motorhome herder weaving back and forth across lanes in his 50 foot rolling mansion at 10 MPH UNDER the speed limit with no regard to those around him.

That's the key... Driving or riding with CONCENTRATION and AWARENESS, along with the proper courtesy on the road... Moving right for faster traffic, signalling your intentions, not tailgating, etc. Speed is not the issue as proven each and every day on Germany's Autobahn and Italy's hi-speed highways (whose name I cannot recall at the moment).

Remember that the US Highway Interstate system was DESIGNED for 70 MPH speeds back when cars (and motorcycles) did not have nearly as good a brakes, handling, tires, etc. as we have today OVER 50 YEARS LATER! Picking speed as a culprit is just as bad as saying that guns kill people instead of people kill people.

When you start talking about Draconian speed limits laws you best be careful what you wish for, for then certainly you may have it.

And whose to say that only speeds over a 100 should get 2 years imprisonment? What does doing over 90 MPH get you - 1 year? Over 80 MPH - 6 months? Over 70 - 90 days?

And what does 150 MPH get you? Life?

Cheers!

Allan (Dallara - NACD)

I don't disagree with you.

I was speaking to driving at triple digit speeds in moderate to heavy traffic where the majority of traffic is 30+ mph slower than you are. That's dangerous.

If you’re into the triple digits on a public road in traffic
Speed itself isn't bad at all, it's the speed differential and how Americans in general drive that is the problem. On the autobahn, 30+ mph differences aren't a problem because slow traffic gets out of your way and following distance is strictly enforced. In America, with so much tailgating and left lane squatting, speed differential is an issue in city traffic.

I also have a feeling our opinions of "traffic" may be different. Growing up and driving in Chicago, "Moderate" traffic is 14 lanes of nearly bumper to bumper moving at over 70 mph. Following distances of more than one car length WILL result in somebody squeezing in. As a result, 70+ mph in wall-to-wall traffic with following distances of less than 10 feet is something that doesn't bother me one bit, while some of my more rural friends start to hyperventilate just being the passenger is such situations.
:028:

I have been witness on several occasions to squids riding at over 100 mph on one wheel... BETWEEN traffic in these types of conditions. That, my friend, is just fucking stupid ...and very reckless for all involved. Those are the idiots, IMHO, that should be thrown in the clinker.

:thumbs_up:

[DJ Down Under]

It's a shame there's many car drivers out there with the same attitude as that jerk..I also looked for an email address to send him my sweet thoughts..:013:

DJ

[supermotoC]

Ignoring the fat bastard is probably the best solution (for this guy). He enjoys stirring the shite, and the reactions he gets fuel his bitter, masturbatory fantasies. I bet this guy hasn't the coordination to ride a MC (probably failed the MSF course 3x), so he whines about what he cannot understand. I also bet he takes his jet boat out on Lewisville Lake and breaks every rule (common sense & legal) on the water. It's when people like this (a loud vocal minority, like Hollywood) get into positions of power (government, not big movie roles) that we need to stand up to them & voice our opinions & truths.


I remember a few years back, I think after Gary Busey had his bad motorcycle wreck, there was a public service announcement asking motorists to “keep an eye open for motorcyclists,” like they are being abused by us car and truck drivers.

This guy is SO wrong - Gary fell on his own accord, hit his head on the curb(!) and subsequently endorsed wearing helmets in national PSAs.


I remember telling the TV, “I’ll look out for them as soon as they start obeying traffic laws.” I’m still waiting, so in my eyes, they are fair game.

Like this guy actually obeys every traffic law. What a hypocrite. This is a managing editor of a newspaper!! How'd you like to work for this guy?
It's a good thing the concealed handgun permit only costs $25 here.

[DarthRider]

C'mon guys...lighten up.
I just opened the link to his newspaper and saw his picture.
The poor bastard doesn't even have ears for chrissake, what do you expect him to say?

Dave

[Optimus Prime]

C'mon guys...lighten up.
I just opened the link to his newspaper and saw his picture.
The poor bastard doesn't even have ears for chrissake, what do you expect him to say?

Dave
:037:

[Wild Will]

If we took this guy's brain and laid it on the edge of a razor, it'd look like a pea rolling down an eight lane highway!

[Acacia]

Have you ever tried to have a reasonable conversation with an editor or journalist about something they wrote? Like trying to talk sense with a somebody with the name of 'dougie' - hey Alan?

Granted, there are idiots that ride as he described, but to generalize that to all riders - tells us all we need to know - as they say in South AL - "he said giddyup to his mouth before he hitched his brain up" - that is presuming he had one at sometime!

Two bit twerp!

[JCsman]

C'mon guys...lighten up.
The poor bastard doesn't even have ears for chrissake, what do you expect him to say?
Dave
I don't know. How about:
Huh?
What?
Speak up?
Couldn't hear you.