Help! Fuel leak in an R1150R

[Promethean]

Hi guys,
Just got onto the bike this morning to get to work. I smelled fuel...and thought I'd investigate. Turns out that the fuel delivery hose is beginning to fail....it has cracks.

(This is the top one out of the 3 lines going into right side of the engine...I hope I described it correctly....not sure of the technical term...will try to post a picture later in the evening).

I hope that the collective wisdom of the Cafe could help me figure out how to fix this.

Any ideas or suggestions are appreciated.

Thanks!

[jamming]

PM sent....
BTW...the fuel hose if you go to Autozone..etc the ID of the hose is 8MM...or...5/16 SAE...5/16 is a thousands smaller. the OD of the BMW hose is 13MM...use a Fuel injection hose clamp....the 14 MM will squeeze down.

Not a big fix AB ...pull the tank...replace the hose.

[Dirty Doug]

Roger hit the nail on the head. Not a hard fix at all but replace the hoses one at a time as not to mix them up. It's so easy even a caveman can do it. ( Sorry GEICO )

Dirty Doug

[GPM]

Roger is completely wrong on this one.


This is a catastrophic failure.


Do not ride the motorcycle.


Sell it immediately.


Buy a Triumph.


:yelrotflmao::yelrotflmao::yelrotflmao:

[jamming]

Buy a Triumph.


:yelrotflmao::yelrotflmao::yelrotflmao:

Now that's a PLAN!!!!
Harry... rode the Tiger to Texas and back.....no problem. Working on the report.

[Arby]

Have you upgraded the quick disconnects? If not, now would be the time to do it. I just did mine and helped my friend do his.

RB

[Promethean]

Rog,
It is actually the bottom one that is failing. I saw cracks into where it meets the larger hose with the fuel clamp. Perhaps it might be best to replace both? Does your earlier suggestion for the fix still stand?

Arby,
I had replaced the QDs with the OEMs...dumb move...I know.

Harry,
If I had to get another bike....I'd go for the K1300GT. Triumphs are for pussies. :pot:


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[Sir Limpsalot]

Triumphs are for pussies. :pot:


That's fighting talk! I love it..

Si.

[AntonLargiader]

You're talking about the hard plastic line? The whole fuel distributor needs to be replaced.

It's not a common failure. They usually only break after being bent/twisted a lot during service.

[Deans BMW]

Harry,
If I had to get another bike....I'd go for the K1300GT. Triumphs are for pussies.

Now you are talking my friend, K1300GT, a right proper bike.

[GPM]

Harry,
If I had to get another bike....I'd go for the K1300GT. Triumphs are for pussies. :pot:



Why don't you drag your young ass out here and I'll strap it on to a Triumph that might make you change your tune. In fact, if you can hold it at full throttle to redline through all the gears, I'll buy you lunch.

I'd suggest you take a long test ride on that K1300GT before you spend your hard earned money. A very different bike from the R1150R. And, if you like the GT, go ride a Kawasaki Concours. Very similar bike for about half the money.

Unless of course its about the brand, and not about the motorcycle.

[Sir Limpsalot]

Go ride a Kawasaki Concours. Very similar bike for about half the money.

Unless of course its about the brand, and not about the motorcycle.

An excellent point that I was about to make myself. I've never really been a Kawasaki fan and have never owned one, but that 1400 could turn a man's head alright.

Getting back to the fuel leak, a "fuel distributor" sounds expensive??

Si.

[panthercity]

An excellent point that I was about to make myself. I've never really been a Kawasaki fan and have never owned one, but that 1400 could turn a man's head alright.

Getting back to the fuel leak, a "fuel distributor" sounds expensive??

Si.

The part isn't all that expensive. Getting to it is a bit of a chore. I imagine the labor would be expensive if your aren't a DIY kinda guy.

[Capt. Blackadder]

Rog,
It is actually the bottom one that is failing. I saw cracks into where it meets the larger hose with the fuel clamp.

Ugh... if you want to replace the fuel distributor, that's a major pain in the ass, since half the bloody bike needs to come apart. How about this instead: pull the tank and replace the larger hose with one that's a good bit longer, so that it covers the crack in the smaller hose coming from the fuel distributor? You could put two hose clamps on it if you feel so inclined. I'll bet that would be about 10% of the time and expense of the alternative.

[jamming]

AB.....is it the hard line? Anton is right. I thought it was the soft line.

[panthercity]

Ugh... if you want to replace the fuel distributor, that's a major pain in the ass, since half the bloody bike needs to come apart. How about this instead: pull the tank and replace the larger hose with one that's a good bit longer, so that it covers the crack in the smaller hose coming from the fuel distributor? You could put two hose clamps on it if you feel so inclined. I'll bet that would be about 10% of the time and expense of the alternative.

GREAT idea! Even if it doesn't work, it's worth a try versus starting at the tail light and removing everything that isn't the fuel distributor/pressure regulator until you get to the battery box.

If you do have to replace the fuel distributor, I'd suggest replacing the pressure regulator at the same time. When I replaced the cracked fuel distributor on my `94 R1100RSA last year, I spent the extra $72.00 and replaced the pressure regulator at the same time rather than do the job again when it failed.

[DarthRider]

We need a thread about life with "old" oilheads, especially the R1150R & GS.
I'm presently casting about for things to repair or replace for preventive maintenance on my '02.
Alternator belt, oil site glass, QD fittings, oil pressure sending unit, fuel line clamps, 2 sets of totally worn out OE shocks, drive shaft & U-joints...now I'm having clutch slave cylinder probs (I think). Geeze, what's next?
It has almost 45K miles. I like the bike overall, and retirement economics dictate that it be a keeper, but I want reliability & dependability. Am I asking too much?

Sorry for the hijack Ab...if we do that thread it should be a separate one.

[AZBMWRIDER]

Why don't you drag your young ass out here and I'll strap it on to a Triumph that might make you change your tune. In fact, if you can hold it at full throttle to redline through all the gears, I'll buy you lunch.

I'd suggest you take a long test ride on that K1300GT before you spend your hard earned money. A very different bike from the R1150R. And, if you like the GT, go ride a Kawasaki Concours. Very similar bike for about half the money.

Unless of course its about the brand, and not about the motorcycle.

The Kawasaki Concours is a "Shit Wagon" compaired to the K1300GT..!

I rode a "Demo" K1300GT at Victory BMW. The bike was absolutely incredible... Very comfortable, powerful and smooth...

I highly reccomend taking one out for a test ride... :nod:

[AZBMWRIDER]

You're talking about the hard plastic line? The whole fuel distributor needs to be replaced.

It's not a common failure. They usually only break after being bent/twisted a lot during service.

I replaced my hard plastic lines on my 02 R1150GS. It wasn't that hard, just time consuming...

[DarthRider]

The Kawasaki Concours is a "Shit Wagon" compaired to the K1300GT..!

I rode a "Demo" K1300GT at Victory BMW. The bike was absolutely incredible... Very comfortable, powerful and smooth...

I highly reccomend taking one out for a test ride... :nod:




Stick a roundel on the tank of a Kawasaki Concours and charge thousands more for it, and it becomes..."Very comfortable, powerful and smooth..."

But what *did* you think of the demo Concours you rode for your comparison...?

[Promethean]

Rog,
It is NOT the hard plastic line but the softer one that the hard line plugs into.

Any thoughts?


AB.....is it the hard line? Anton is right. I thought it was the soft line.

[AZBMWRIDER]

Stick a roundel on the tank of a Kawasaki Concours and charge thousands more for it, and it becomes..."Very comfortable, powerful and smooth..."

But what *did* you think of the demo Concours you rode for your comparison...?


Just like the FJR, lot's of heat on your lower legs....

No cruise control or heated grips...

Other than that, I liked it... :99smoke:

[GPM]

Just like the FJR, lot's of heat on your lower legs....

No cruise control or heated grips...

Other than that, I liked it... :99smoke:

K1300GT MSRP $18,800
Kawasaki Concours MSRP $13,499

$4,300 for cruise control and heated grips.

:30802983-Ti:

[DarthRider]

K1300GT MSRP $18,800
Kawasaki Concours MSRP $13,499

$4,300 for cruise control and heated grips.

:30802983-Ti:

Well yeah...and two of these!
http://www.usmedix.com/images/bmw/bmw-roundel.gif

[AZBMWRIDER]

K1300GT MSRP $18,800
Kawasaki Concours MSRP $13,499

$4,300 for cruise control and heated grips.




$18,800...?

More like $20,500

Heated seats / grips, ABS, ESA, TPM, ASC, Cruise Control, On-Board Computer

[AZBMWRIDER]

Rog,
It is actually the bottom one that is failing. I saw cracks into where it meets the larger hose with the fuel clamp. Perhaps it might be best to replace both? Does your earlier suggestion for the fix still stand?


I used the parts fiche to find and order my parts...

FUEL DISTRIBUTOR/PRESSURE REGULATOR
http://www.maxbmwmotorcycles.com/fiche/MainDiagrams.asp?mospid=47984



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[AZBMWRIDER]

BMW Motorcycles of Milwaukee
7016 N. 76th Street Milwaukee WI 53223
Phone: (414) 358-2465


K 1300 GT 3.9% (36 months), 4.9% (48 months), 5.9% (60 months)



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[GPM]

$18,800...?

More like $20,500

Heated seats / grips, ABS, ESA, TPM, ASC, Cruise Control, On-Board Computer

MSRP is always quoted without options.

[Deans BMW]

Don't forget a Deans Deal for the "Cafe" with those same finance rates.

Just sayin..........

[AZBMWRIDER]

:badgrin: :lol8: :bigstar:

[GPM]

Ok, I'll play too.....


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[Capt. Blackadder]

Rog,
It is NOT the hard plastic line but the softer one that the hard line plugs into.

Any thoughts?

Oh! Well, then you're on Easy Street. All you gotta do is order a length of 8x13mm fuel hose and a couple of fuel hose clamps, if you don't have the aftermarket screw-type ones installed. While you're waiting for the parts to arrive, do this: Ten minutes before you plan to take off, switch the bike on to pressurize the fuel lines, then switch it off. Don't start it. This will swell the fuel lines up and stop the leak if given a few minutes. Worked for me, at least.

[jamming]

Rog,
It is NOT the hard plastic line but the softer one that the hard line plugs into.

Any thoughts?
Good, no problem. My prior advice stands.

[AZBMWRIDER]

Rog,
It is NOT the hard plastic line but the softer one that the hard line plugs into.

Any thoughts?

Promethean, go to your local NAPA Store and ask for 8x13mm Fuel Injection Hose & Clamps...

http://www.napaonline.com/Shopping/ShoppingPreferences.aspx?pref=s




.

[Promethean]

Thanks guys. Will do.

Do I need to disconnect the fuel pump cable or take any specific precautions? I don't want to make a mess. :D




Promethean, go to your local NAPA Store and ask for 8x13mm Fuel Injection Hose & Clamps...

http://www.napaonline.com/Shopping/ShoppingPreferences.aspx?pref=s




.


Good, no problem. My prior advice stands.


Oh! Well, then you're on Easy Street. All you gotta do is order a length of 8x13mm fuel hose and a couple of fuel hose clamps, if you don't have the aftermarket screw-type ones installed. While you're waiting for the parts to arrive, do this: Ten minutes before you plan to take off, switch the bike on to pressurize the fuel lines, then switch it off. Don't start it. This will swell the fuel lines up and stop the leak if given a few minutes. Worked for me, at least.

[jamming]

Thanks guys. Will do.

Do I need to disconnect the fuel pump cable or take any specific precautions? I don't want to make a mess. :D

Don't smoke, no open sparks, clean rags, a 6 pack of adult beverage on ice...you know.....