Homeland Security: "Returning Vets Potential "RIGHT WING EXTREMISTS"

[Capt. Nemo]

Says inaction on illegals and new gun control may spark Domestic Terror.

http://images.logicsix.com/DHS_RWE.pdf

Hey, you hot shot PC guys... Is the abovre link real?





Washington, DC -- The U.S. Department of Homeland Security has issued a report saying that returning U.S. military members may pose a domestic security threat.

The report also talks about how government inaction regarding illegal aliens, new gun laws and the worsening economic climate may make vets ripe for recruitment by "right wing extremist" groups who may resort to violence against the government.

The report is designated "For Official Use Only" as it contains "Law-Enforcement Sensitive" details. The report specifically says it is NOT to be released to the media or to the public.

Thankfully, sources inside the department of Homeland Security have gotten a complete copy of this report




If this is legitimate it speaks volumes about the current Administration.

[JCsman]

Read 'em and weep.

http://www.thelibertypapers.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/hsa-rightwing-extremism-09-04-07.pdf

[Capt. Nemo]

This was initiated under the Bush Administration I believe in 05', and then re-issued under the new Administration via Napolitano.
Pretty weird stuff.

[NoRRmad]

...Seems reasonable to me.

Is the problem that the people who are so lauded for defending our country are being regarded as a security risk?

I think they could be both without any logical inconsistancy. As the document notes, there is Timothy McVeigh, Army veteran and right-wing terrorist.

[JCsman]

...Seems reasonable to me.

Is the problem that the people who are so lauded for defending our country are being regarded as a security risk?

I think they could be both without any logical inconsistancy. As the document notes, there is Timothy McVeigh, Army veteran and right-wing terrorist.

Uhhhh, RR, to deduce a threat from a "trend line" with a single data point is beyond stooooopid. And it's hard to believe the author could be that dense.

Let's look at another example. Hey, I know of a couple -OH BOY, TWO, count 'em, TWO data points! Why it just MUST be true!!! - of terrorists that blew stuff, and people, up. Let's see, left wing, Chicago connections, worked in the field of education. So, obviously, liberals from Chicago should all be under a cloud of suspicion, right? Uh, oh. Better have the Secret Service watch out for that potential terrorist, President Obama. And his WIFE.

What, do you think the problem is that people lauded as so articulate or electable are reguarded as a security risk?

But, there is your "logical consistancy" with twice the data.

Now if there were many, many Timothy M types with large and small reported acts of terrorism, both successful and not.... if we had reams of written evidence there are thousands of these folk plotting.... if we had phone or internet postings (again in the hundreds) of a broad conspiricy of these folk, there night be a very valid point to this.

But there isn't such evidence, now, is there? If you have it, bring it forth. If not, where is the justifuication for such slander?

Unless, of course, the author of the report is trying to support a conclusion reached much earlier. Sure fits a certain theme though, doesn't it? And a good theme/conviction/prejudice is too good to waste. Like a good crisis.

The problem is making the leap to conclude this huge, broad segment of the population are a realalistic enough threat to generate such a report with no evidence.

And, yeah, I DO have a problem with casting such UNSUPPORTED slander on men and women that volunteered to safeguard our country.

[NoRRmad]

Well, this is the paragraph to which you seem to be objecting. The rest of the report has nothing to do with military recruits.


Disgruntled Military Veterans
(U//FOUO) DHS/I&A assesses that rightwing extremists will attempt to recruit and
radicalize returning veterans in order to exploit their skills and knowledge derived from
military training and combat. These skills and knowledge have the potential to boost the
capabilities of extremists—including lone wolves or small terrorist cells—to carry out
violence. The willingness of a small percentage of military personnel to join extremist
groups during the 1990s because they were disgruntled, disillusioned, or suffering from
the psychological effects of war is being replicated today.
— (U) After Operation Desert Shield/Storm in 1990-1991, some returning military
veterans—including Timothy McVeigh—joined or associated with rightwing
extremist groups.
— (U) A prominent civil rights organization reported in 2006 that “large numbers
of potentially violent neo-Nazis, skinheads, and other white supremacists are now
learning the art of warfare in the [U.S.] armed forces.”
— (U//LES) The FBI noted in a 2008 report on the white supremacist movement
that some returning military veterans from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have
joined extremist groups.Doesn't seem to me that anybody's tarring anybody with a too-big brush. This is an isolated phenomenon with few adherents -- but, as in the case of McVeigh...it only takes one.