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Deans BMW
03-29-2009, 10:42 AM
Union Rules & Hookers
A dedicated Teamsters union worker was attending a convention in Las Vegas and decided to check out the local brothels. When he got to the first one, he asked the Madam, 'Is this a union house?'
'No,' she replied, 'I'm sorry it isn't.'
'Well, if I pay you $100, what cut do the girls get?'
'The house gets $80 and the girls get $20,' she answered.
Offended at such unfair dealings, the union man stomped off down the street in search of a more equitable, hopefully unionized shop. His search continued until finally he reached a brothel where the Madam responded, 'Why yes sir, this is a union house. 'We observe all union rules.'
The man asked, 'And if I pay you $100, what cut do the girls get?' 'The girls get $80 and the house gets $20.'
'That's more like it!' the union man said.
He handed the Madam $100, looked around the room, and pointed to a stunningly attractive green-eyed blonde .
'I'd like her,' he said.
'I'm sure you would, sir,' said the Madam. Then she gestured to a 92-year old woman in the corner, 'but Ethel here has 67 years seniority and according to union rules, she's next.'
NOW YOU Know what's wrong with the AUTO industry
And why they want a BAILOUT
Donson
03-29-2009, 11:06 AM
That is a very accurate analogy.
DarthRider
03-29-2009, 11:19 AM
The Teamsters, Rail unions, UAW and others (IMO) have done more harm to the US economy through the years than Madoff ever dreamed of.
Once we needed labor unions. Now we need for them to go away.
isiahstites
03-29-2009, 11:57 AM
The Teamsters, Rail unions, UAW and others (IMO) have done more harm to the US economy through the years than Madoff ever dreamed of.
Once we needed labor unions. Now we need for them to go away.
Dave, as President of our union in the city I couldn't agree with you more. I have done everything I can to keep our union at a distance as they always want us to support their agendas. All we want them to do is to support us in a legal matter to ensure that we are not being taken advantage of by the city.
Now you may ask yourself why someone would have this viewpoint about a union, but still actively participate within the union? The anwser is, I didn't want people to tell me what was or was not going to be implemted in the rules and regulations, I wanted to be involved in the process so I started at the bottom and worked my way up over several years.
I come from the private sector and know how great we have it at the city. I never have and never will negotiate for anything that is not needed or warranted! I negotiate to better existing benefits and policies. I continually tell my guys how great we have at it and that I will never negotiate them out of a job by asking for a lavish lifestyle.
Scott
jamming
03-29-2009, 12:14 PM
It's funny, the Teamsters have been after us for years. They're not real bright though. I make more, have more vacation, have better medical benefits and a better retirement plan than they do. Why would I NEED a union? I don't.
I couldn't agree with Dave more. ONCE we needed them, now we don't. The unions have priced themselves out of a job. 30 bucks an hour to place a widget on a car? Get real.
X-Troller
03-29-2009, 06:02 PM
I have a hard time believing that the only thing wrong with the American Auto industry is the unions. Every auto maker in the world is in dire straights and most motorcycle manufacturer. Is unionism rampant in the banking industry,Real Estate industry's? The poor Ford family is hurting because of union's I doubt. In fact Ford isn't doing too bad probably better than BMW and Mercedes. I'm not advocating that unions are not to be faulted but to blame them for the demise of the world economy is just plain folly. There is enough blame to go around. In the late 19th and early 20th century at least the Masters of Industry had a stake in the outcome now the CEO's,CFO's.and every other O's have not contributed much except their family bought degree's from Wharton(ie:Trump) I can do no wrong.Stanford or a slew of Ivey league schools. At least Ted Turner had every thing to loose when he took over his fathers advertisement business and made the best of it. What stake does Wagoneer(sp) or the former CEO of Home Depot(that is not doing so well) now CEO of Chrysler wrenches plumbing = jeeps,minivans have in the outcome especially if they know they will get millions even if the company's go under. Did AIG exec's have a union? I think not.Do BOA tellers have one NO.
By the way the Joke is funny and has been around for quite some time.
DarthRider
03-29-2009, 07:20 PM
I have a hard time believing that the only thing wrong with the American Auto industry is the unions.
I'm not advocating that unions are not to be faulted but to blame them for the demise of the world economy is just plain folly.
Nick, I don't think anyone was saying either of those things. I know I wasn't.
It's just that the thread was about unions.
I agree with what you say, but I still think American labor unions are, for the most part, way out of date and do more harm than good.
Poor Ted Turner...he had to sleep with Jane Fonda! :pftroest:
X-Troller
03-29-2009, 07:29 PM
I agree poor Ted the nations second largest land holder after the US govt. I've talked to a few of Ted's employees in the Fl. panhandle where he has extensive land holdings for bird hunting and some former Americas Cup team mates (not adversaries) and they all think he's a great guy.
DarthRider
03-29-2009, 08:01 PM
I like his old movies channel...our popcorn bill went way up since we got satellite TV. :eusa_clap:
I like him owning all the old movies a hell of a lot more than I like Michael Jackson (Dean's hero) owning all the old music...including the freakin' Beatles!
jamming
03-29-2009, 09:52 PM
Never said the unions were the only problem. There's a myriad of problems that got us in the fix we're in.
The thing about the overpaid executives, when they're gone, the excess baggage goes with them. But with the unions, via the health & welfare packages, the expenses just keep getting larger and larger. You know, like a ponzi scheme.
When we buy an American car today, we're paying the retirement package for the guy who build our cars 25 years ago.
It's great as long as it works, but when it stops working, then somethings gotta change.
In business, the old saying is: "The higher the gain, the higher the risk". The unions have held out for higher gains over the years, now it's plain, I believe, that they've overplayed their hand. The risk has always been that the employers could not sustain these union demands.
It's like being in business for your self. You soon learn that you can charge whatever you want. But getting folks to pay your price is another matter. Sorta like the unions can demand whatever they want, but if the employer goes broke trying to pay it.......
RB
Nail24
03-30-2009, 07:38 AM
I'm an ALPA member. If you've never been in a union it's hard for me to accept the judgements you make. The union members for the most part are hard working folks. Those who rise to the top leadership positions often as not become as greedy as the corporate weasels they are their to bargain with. We'd have a lot of dead coalminers if the unions hadn't fought for safety standards in the mining industry. We'd also have children woring in factories like the Chinese. But, unions also have and obligation to keep the company viable. I took a 38% pay and benefit cut three years before I was retired (mandated by the FAA) to keep Northwest Airlines in business when fuel prices went through the roof. That was to bail out greedy managers who were lining their pockets daily. Don't listen to the politicians that beat or praise unions for political gain. Sit down with a real union member and get the inside truth about what it's all about. If I'd had a dog's chance of negogiating a contract with the company own my own and gotten what my services as a pilot contributed to the company coffers, I would not have needed a union. Think about it. All that said, there are slackers that use the union to get paid much more than they are worth. They are the scumbags that keep the wrong union leaders in power. Just and insider opinion.
DarthRider
03-30-2009, 10:36 AM
I have been a member of a labor union.
That's where many of my anti-union feelings came from.
Donson
03-30-2009, 12:05 PM
+ 1
JCsman
03-30-2009, 04:00 PM
I have been a member of a labor union.
That's where many of my anti-union feelings came from.
+2
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