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TonyT607
04-18-2007, 09:21 AM
Just saw this on the New Sweden BMW Riders board (NSBMWR)
(New Sweden, NJ, USA)

Wilbers USA
April 16, 2007
Ref.: Wilbers line of products, manufactured in Germany
Dear Customer:

I am sorry to say that as of 4-16-07 we will not be offering the Wilbers products out of Germany. Orders for Wilbers shocks or springs out of Germany, that have been placed with us after March 1 - 07 up to April 13 - 07, can not be delivered, because the manufacturer decided not to ship our orders, despite acknowledging them in writing. What has happened???

I decided some time ago to expand my business by adding a line of high quality, but more economically priced twin-shocks for the vintage market, the YSS product.

Please understand that I started marketing the Wilbers products back in 2001 without an exclusive contract from the manufacturer, and still do not have one today. Mr. Wilbers came to know about my interest in the YSS products a few weeks ago, and as a reprimand, told me that I am not part of their "preferred" vendor group any longer. As such, the delivery commitment of 14 working days would not apply to Wilbers USA any longer. I would have to wait for the product to be delivered when they are ready to ship it. I swallowed, waited, and told my customers that there is a delivery crunch due to high order volume in Germany, hoping that Germany would ship the pending orders a bit later.

Asking for the delivery time again after about 10 days, I was told that as long as I would invest money with a competitor, I would not be supplied outstanding orders. I asked him to discuss the issue so we could arrive at a solution that would be satisfactory to both of us. He declined, demanding that I would state and commit in writing to be an exclusive Wilbers supplier, not carrying any competitive product, without offering me an exclusive contract. I declined respectfully and again expressed my interest in continuing with Wilbers, but the need to discuss the issue. I suggested to continue the supply of product to the US market and not to "penalize" the customer base because of our differences. I offered to turn the business over to a successor if we would not arrive at an agreeable solution, but to continue serving the market until that point of time. Mr. Wilbers strongly declined, telling me that I would not understand the seriousness of the situation and told me that my orders - all of which had been confirmed - would not be shipped to us.

I am sorry that it came to this, but my business ethics do not allow me to continue dealing with a person or business under those threats. Disagreements happen every day, and can be resolved by discussing them, but they should not be carried out on the back of the people we both need most -our customers.

I have contacted another supplier of High Quality shocks in the Netherlands - HYPERPRO, explained the situation and asked if they would work with me.

I am glad to say that they agreed, and as of today April 17, I am proud to offer the HYPERPRO line of shock absorbers. All current orders will be contacted over the next few days, informed of the situation, and asked whether they want to accept the Hyperpro product, or cancel the order and receive a refund of their down-payment.

We continue doing business under the registered name of Wilbers USA. We continue serving the Wilbers products we sold in the past with warranty claims, regular service, modifications etc. We will honor the 5 year warranty extended to you at time of purchase to the fullest.

I know it will be difficult in the next few months promoting a new product, and basically starting from scratch, but I am committed to do so. Please contact us with your suspension questions and needs, and say hello when you see us at the next rally, show or meeting. It is a long explanation, but I felt you needed to get the full story to understand the situation.

Thank you for your time in reading this letter. I am looking forward doing
business with you in the future.

Sincerely

Klaus Huenecke

BobFV1
04-18-2007, 09:46 AM
Yikes - that's the trouble with international business - difficult to have a universally enforceable contract. I am working with a client now who has a case going to the European Union arbitration court - the client is American and the other party is European - wonder how that one will turn out?

fnfalman
04-18-2007, 04:03 PM
As long as there are golden boingies available, who cares if Wilbur is available. It's a non-issue for me. The bests are already available in the US, so no great loss if a so-so product didn't make it over here.

bikerfish1100
04-28-2007, 06:26 AM
As long as there are golden boingies available, who cares if Wilbur is available. It's a non-issue for me. The bests are already available in the US, so no great loss if a so-so product didn't make it over here.

spoken like a true brand loyal buyer. ever try Wilbers? no, i didn't think so. i've run Ohlins on a few bikes, and currently have a mixed set of Wilbers/Ohlins on my R11S. Wilbers is at least = to Ohlins, for less $, and the factory actually sets the shock to your specs when you purchase, unlike Ohlins. well, Ohlins says they do, but at best you'll get a correct spring from them. maybe. Ollies got the name rep over Wilbers, nothing on performance.

fnfalman
04-28-2007, 09:54 PM
spoken like a true brand loyal buyer. ever try Wilbers? no, i didn't think so. i've run Ohlins on a few bikes, and currently have a mixed set of Wilbers/Ohlins on my R11S. Wilbers is at least = to Ohlins, for less $, and the factory actually sets the shock to your specs when you purchase, unlike Ohlins. well, Ohlins says they do, but at best you'll get a correct spring from them. maybe. Ollies got the name rep over Wilbers, nothing on performance.


When Aprilia starts to spec Wilbur as factory upgrades, I'll consider it. The Ohlins rear shock for my Tuono costed me $600. The Ohlins front & rear for my Rockster costed me $1200 for both. Please let me know where I can find Wilbur for cheaper.

Bake
04-29-2007, 07:21 AM
It makes Baby Jesus cry when we don't get our cool farkles. The infamous Touratech backordered notification, and now Wilbers USA isn't Wilbers. Teutonic revenge.

R4R&R
04-29-2007, 07:27 AM
I heard that Pirate's Lair will offer Wilbers soon (http://www.piratesk12site.net/).

The Wilburs come completely setup for you and all you have to do is slap them on and go riding. I'm not talking only a 'custom' spring, but sag, preload, dampening, etc. Klaus would get a good idea of the type of riding and your loads as a part of the ordering process, then have the shock completely ready to bolt on and go. I went to set the sag on mine and they were spot-on. Others I know that bought Ohline, had to 'set' them up after installation. I know, not a tough thing to do, but it's that little extra step of customer service that Klaus included. Plus they have a 5 year warranty (I hope I can get warranty service if I need it!) and a 50% off first rebuild (at least Klaus did).

I'm not knocking Ohlins, but someone else was knocking Wilburs. I spend a little less for the Wilburs than the Ohlins, and then got a discount. I think the Wilburs are as good as the other popular brands out there, and then offered the extra customer service. We'll see if holds up.

fnfalman
04-29-2007, 04:32 PM
It's nice that Wilber offers custom settings and such, but if that's what you want then Works Performance Shocks can custom build your shocks for you too and they're right here in the great USA.

Anyway, Wilber isn't missed by me or the rest of the sport riding community at all. Not while Ohlins and Penske are still around and plentiful.